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Thomas JOINES, Jr.

Male 1802 - 1868  (66 years)


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  • Name Thomas JOINES  [1, 2
    Suffix Jr. 
    Birth 15 Jan 1802  Wilkes Co., NC Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Gender Male 
    Death 26 Apr 1868  Alleghany Co., NC Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Burial Whitehead Union Baptist Church, Alleghany Co., NC Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Person ID I7799  Rootballs
    Last Modified 10 Jan 2015 

    Father Thomas JOINES, Sr.,   b. Abt 1750   d. Feb 1835 (Age ~ 85 years) 
    Relationship Natural 
    Mother Mary CAUDLE,   b. Abt 1755, VA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Relationship Natural 
    Family ID F238  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Lydia HOPPERS   bur. Whitehead Union Baptist Church, Alleghany Co., NC Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Ezekial JOINES,   b. 09 May 1824, Ashe Co., NC Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 07 Mar 1904, Ashe Co., NC Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 79 years)  [Natural]
     2. Susan JOINES,   b. 05 Mar 1826, Ashe Co., NC Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Aft 1800, Prob. Wilkes Co., NC Find all individuals with events at this location  [Natural]
     3. Daniel JOINES,   b. 16 Oct 1828, Ashe Co., NC Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 01 Jan 1910, Alleghany Co., NC Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 81 years)  [Natural]
     4. John W. JOINES,   b. Abt 1832  [Natural]
     5. Calloway JOINES,   b. Jun 1832, Ashe Co., NC Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1912, Alleghany Co., NC Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 79 years)  [Natural]
     6. Martha JOINES,   b. Abt 1834, Ashe Co., NC Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Aft 1900 (Age ~ 67 years)  [Natural]
     7. Narcissa JOINES,   b. 03 Mar 1837, Ashe Co., NC Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 26 Apr 1922, Alleghany Co., NC Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 85 years)  [Natural]
     8. Linville JOINES,   b. Abt 1840, Ashe Co., NC Find all individuals with events at this location  [Natural]
    Family ID F3008  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 10 Jan 2015 

  • Notes 
    • 1.Thomas Joines' tombstone in the "Joines Family Cemetery" at the Whitehead Union Baptist Church, in Alleghany Co., NC, states that Thomas' birth date was 15 January 1802 and that his death date was 26 April 1866.

      Thomas Joines' original Will is located in the North Carolina State Archives, in Raleigh, NC. The Will is located in a stack of unbound Wills from Alleghany Co., NC dated 1859-1912. Thomas' Will is signed by Thomas on the 16th of March 1868 and was proven in the Alleghany Court of Pleas and Quarter sessions on April 27 1868. This proves that Thomas could not have died in 1866 as his tombstone states, and if he died on the 26th of April, then his Will was presented to the Court on the very next day. From this Will it is proven that Thomas died after March 16th and before April 27th of 1868. Thomas' tombstone was erected after his wife Lydia died in 1879, more than eleven years after Thomas' death. This could explain why the death date on his tombstone is incorrect.
      (Doc# 172) (Doc# 304)

      In his Will Thomas names Daniel Joines as his son but does not name any of his other children. Marion Brown is named as co-executor but his relationship to Thomas is not stated.(Marion Brown was married to Martha who was a daughter of Thomas'.) Meredith Richardson signed the Will as
      a Witness. (Meredith Richardson was married to Sessie who is a daughter of Thomas' per Sessie's death certificate in Alleghany Co. dated 192

      On the 30th of October 1868, the executors of Thomas' estate submitted an inventory of the estate including property sold by the executors and
      a list of the people that purchased the property. The personal property was purchased by his wife, sons, sons-in-law, grandsons, and neighbors. It is interesting to note that among the items purchased by Elyda (Lydia) was a "still and worm", for three dollars. The rest of Thomas' personal property was sold at the house of Thomas' and a return of this sale was submitted to the Court in June of 1871. A final return of the debts owed to the Estate and debts collected was made to the Court by Elida and Ezekiel Joines in August of 1872. (Doc# 294)
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      2.Thomas Joines, Jr., seems to have moved to Ashe Co., NC, from Wilkes Co. between 1820 and 1830. He first appears in a census in Ashe Co. in 1830. According "Alleghany Co. Heritage" (Alleghany Co. Hist.-Gen. Society, 1983), p.282, Thomas and his wife Lydia purchased 300 acres of land from the heirs of Daniel Hoppers on Nov. 12, 1824. The land was located on the banks of the Little River near what is now the town of Whitehead. Census records indicate they had at least 10 children, 5 boys and 5 girls.

      Thomas Joines' tombstone in the Thomas Joines Family Cemetery near the Whitehead Union Baptist Church, Alleghany Co., NC, states that his birth date was Jan. 15, 1802 and that his death date was April 26, 1866. However, his will proves he died in 1868, not 1866. Thomas signed his will on Mar. 16, 1868, and was proven in the Alleghany Court on April 27, 1868. The explanation for the incorrect date on the tombstone is probably that it was erected after his wife Lydia died in 1879, more than eleven years after his death.

      1830 Census, Ashe Co., NC, p.36: THOMAS JOINS
      2 w/m under 5 1 w/f under 5
      1 w/m 20-29 1 w/f 5-9
      No slaves 1 w/f 10-14
      1 w/f 20-29

      1840 Census, Ashe Co., NC, p.8: THOS. JOINS
      3 w/m 5-9 2 w/f under 5
      2 w/m 10-14 2 w/f 10-14
      1 w/m 30-39 1 w/f 15-19
      1 w/f 30-39

      1850 Census, Ashe Co., NC, p.256 (HH#273):
      THOS. JOINS, 49, farmer, 1300, NC
      -- Lydia, 48, NC
      -- Callaway, 20, NC
      -- John A., 18, NC
      -- Patsy, 16, NC
      -- Narcysa, 13, NC
      -- Linville, 10, NC

      1860 Census, Alleghany Co., NC, Gap Civil Twp., p.397/199 (HH#334):
      THOS JOINES, 58, farmer, $--, $--, NC
      -- Lydia, 37, NC << prob. a mistake; should be age 57
      -- Martha, 24, NC
      -- Narcissa, 23, NC
      -- Linville, 21, NC

      1860 Census, Agricultural Schedule, Alleghany Co., NC: THOS. JOINES, 60 acres improved land, 30 acres unimproved land, value of farm $1,000, value of farm implements $75, 2 horses, 0 asses/mules, 5 milch cows, 0 working oxen, 12 other cattle, 14 sheep, 65 swine, value of livestock $430. (Source: New River Notes.)

      Thomas Joines died Apr. 26, 1868. His wife, Lydia, is listed in the following census entry:

      1870 Census, Alleghany Co., NC, Gap Civil Twp. (HH#22):
      LYDIA JOINES, 68, keeping house, NC
      -- Eveline, 19, at home, NC
      -- Robert, 16, at home, NC
      [Eveline and Robert may have been grandchildren.]

      Deed Abstracts:

      Nov. 12, 1824. James WHITEHEAD & wife Mary, David EVANS & wife Betsy, Moses JOINES & wife Susannah, John HOPPERAS, Jacob HOPPERAS, Thomas JOINES & wife Lydia, the heirs at law & legatees of Daniel HOPPERAS, dec'd, to Henry WAGGONER & Sarah his wife, 280 acres in Ashe Co. lying on the waters of the Little River adj. Daniel HOPPERAS old line, Turkey Knob ridge, and Mary HOPPERS line. Signed: James WHITEHEAD, Mary (X) WHITEHEAD, David EVANS, Elizabeth (X) EVANS, John HOPPERAS, Jacob (X) HOPPERAS, Moses JOINES, Susan (X) JOINES, Thos. JOINES, Lydia (X) JOINES. Wits: Benjamin (X) KROWSE, John (X) SPURLIN. Proved Dec. 6, 1875, by Benjamin CROUSE. Reg. Dec. 14, 1875. (Alleghany Co., NC, DB C-3, pp.117-118).

      Nov. 18, 1824. David EVANS & wife Betsy, Henry WAGGONER wife & Sarah, Moses JOINES & wife Susannah, John HOPPERAS, Jacob HOPPERAS, Thomas JOINES & wife Lydia, heirs at law & legatees of Daniel HOPPERAS, dec'd, to James WHITEHEAD & Mary his wife, 4 tracts of land containing 385 acres in Ashe Co., adj. the Little River, Gabriel FENDER, Windel CROUSE's old line, Nimrod FENDER, and John FENDER. Signed: David EVANS, Elizabeth (X) EVANS, Henry WAGGONER, Sarah (X) WAGGONER, Moses JOINES, Susannah (X) JOINES, John HOPPERAS, Jacob (X) HOPPERAS, Thos. JOINES, Lydia (X) JOINES. Wits: Benjamin (X) KROWSE, John (X) SPURLIN. Proved Mar. 6, 1876, by Benj. CROUSE. Reg. Apr. 13, 1876. (Alleghany Co., NC, DB C-3, pp.180-183).

      Jan. 20, 1866. Major JOINS of Wilkes Co., NC, to Thomas & Lydia JOINS of Alleghany Co., NC, 175 acres on waters of Little River adj. the mill ford, for $170. Signed: Major JOINS. Wits: Isom WAGONER, F.M. JOINS. Proved Apr. term 1868 by Isom WAGONER. (Alleghany Co., NC, DB A-1, p.230). [Note: due to a legal flaw in the deed, this land was reconveyed by Major JOINES to Lydia JOINES on May 24, 1873. See DB B-2, p.34.]

      Mar. 14, 1868. Thomas & Lydia JOINES to Meredith RICHARDSON, no acreage stated, land on Little River, for $40. Signed: Thomas JOINES, Lydia (X) JOINES. Wits: Isom WAGONER, Daniel JOINES. Proved Fall term, 1868. (Alleghany Co., NC, DB A-1, p.293.)

      May 24, 1873. Major JOINES of Wilkes Co., NC, to Lidya JOINES of Alleghany Co., NC, 175 acres on Little River adj. M. RICHARDSON, the GAMBILL[?] entry, the old HOPPERS survey, William WHITEHEAD, & David JOINES, for $173. Signed: Major JOINES. Wits: M.F. JOINES, Mary BEAVER. "This deed made in the place of a deed made by me to Thomas & Liddya JOINES in which a fatal defect has been discovered and Thomas JOINES being dead the legal title vesting in Liddya JOINES, I therefore make the deed to her in her own name". Signed: Major JOINES. Proved June 7, 1873. (Alleghany Co., NC, DB B-2, p.34.)

      Sept. 4, 1875. Lydia JOINES to Jacob HOPPERS, 8ΒΌ acres on Little River beg. on a rock at yellow bank ford on west side of the river south of the mill house, running down the north side of the river to the bend, adj. RICHARDSON's line, for $45. Signed: Lydia (X) JOINES. Wits: M.F. JOINES, Rob (X) JOINES. Proved July 4, 1891, by M.F. JOINES. Reg. July 7, 1891. (Alleghany Co., NC, DB H-8, p.487.)

      Dec. 12, 1878. Meredith RICHARDSON & wife Sesa to Daniel JOINES, a tract of land on Little River [no acreage stated], where Elydia JOINES now lives, for $130. Boundaries set forth in a deed from Elydia JOINES to Jacob HOPPERS. Signed: Meredith RICHARDSON, Sessa (X) RICHARDSON. Proved Jan. 28, 1879, by the grantors. Reg. Dec. 24, 1885. (Alleghany Co., NC, DB F-6, p.131.)

  • Sources 
    1. [S143] Caudill, B.K.

    2. [S35] 1860 Alleghany Co., NC Census, Gap Civil Twp., House #334, p.199B.

    3. [S223] Joines, Eldon D.